You are going to find yourself quite in the minority on this one crazymonk. I loved Incredibles and thought Finding Nemo was quite fun. While it is true that Pixar follows a formula of sorts, they follow it damn well. When I want a cola soda, I drink Coke. Sure, it's a middle brow mainstream soda, but they do it right and no other cola soda can compare. And Pixar is the Coke of computer animated films. What, would you rather watch all of these other crappy looking computer animated films? Shrek was like RC Cola.

And yeah, Miyazaki can blow them out of the water. Pixar would agree with that. So would all those film nerds in the blogosphere you speak of. But even Miyazaki has misteps (Howl's was so so) and doesn't he follow a formula as well? Kids coming of age, magic, cute little creatures, etc.

So I may see Cars. It doesn't excite me all that much, but when I went to Finding Nemo I wasn't all that excited either, and I really enjoyed it. Then again, since I am going to Japan tomorrow, maybe I should just go watch some Miyazaki.

Where did I first see the Doc Hollywood comparison? It certainly wasn't Las Vegas Weekly, and I have read no reviews for the film yet. Does anyone know?

BTW: Marco you sure have a hard-on for hating Pixar. The Incredibles was a great f-ing movie. My one word review of The Incredibles: Fantastic. (thx, Coenbro for the joke).

I understand Miyazaki has his own style, but unlike with Pixar, I'm not tired of it. And speaking of Howl's, I saw it a second time this past weekend and I liked it much better than my first viewing (although the ending is still a bit all over the place).

I thought The Incredibles was ok. I enjoyed the animation of the evil robots, and thought it had some clever moments (e.g., the cape scene). Still, I found the family dynamics very uninteresting, and I generally disliked the main characters. Plus, Ayn Rand sucks.

Oh, as for your comment on the other computer animated kids movies out there, I pretty much dislike them all. I can't wait till a high-quality computer animated comes out that doesn't seem like it's been pumped out by the same team of harmlessly funny writers.

Ha, the politics in the Incredibles was great!

i agree with new york anthony. their movies may not be challenging, but they are approaching flawless. and i really enjoy children's programming that doesn't "dumb it down."

are they keeping the nude scene from doc hollywood? i think THAT would be challenging.

a middle brow mainstream soda?
good god.

good god?
good god.

Good God Soda, for all your mainstream cola needs.

I felt the same way you did about the Toy Story movies-- their harmlessness made all the critical raving about how good they were ("for adults, too!") kind of insulting. But I liked Monsters, Inc.

crazymonk, you're a doofus. there's no "formula" in making a movie with a solid story, endearing characters, and enduring humor. Pixar makes better films than most of the major live-action studios.

ps, your headline is obnoxious and vulgar. however, it is an unintentional allusion to a controversial "far side" cartoon from many years ago.

pps, i have no idea what you mean by the "doc hollywood" comparison. what the hell are you people are you talking about?

ppps. i get it now; LVW made that comparison in their dumbass review. i kept linking to the IMDB page for DH.

not to split hairs, but Michael J. Fox (45 today!) didn't leave "big city life for the spiritual environs of a small town" in Doc Hollywood -- he got into car trouble, rejected small town life for most of the movie, and then accepted it by the end. dear las vegas weekly (motto: a 9th-rate publication for a 12th-rate town!), get your details about the plot of Doc Hollywood right!

It's also alluding to song lyrics, but I'll take the Far Side reference as well (I know what cartoon you mean).

"dude, he's humping that car!"