We did not have tortuous relations with those people, our captives.

Andrew Sullivan on Bush's "We do not torture" lie. There has never been better evidence that Bush is untruthful to the American public, and trust me, I've never been into the whole "Bush Lies" campaign.


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"...American officials have said that they obtain assurances from the third countries that prisoners will not be tortured, but that the United States is limited in its ability to enforce the promises."

-this sounds SO much like Walmart's stance on third party hirers whose (c/overtly encouraged and contract-price necessary) hiring of illegals is "beyond control" of Walmart itself. Walmart & the U.S. Govt: two paragons of hands-off morality.

flea | Wed, 12/07/2005 - 1:04pm

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